@fyrfli Interesting. I think I've seen some services for spinning up mastodon and pixelfed instances with fair fees. I forget the names though.

Is there something specific about gotosocial that you prefer?

I've been working on it from a different side with statically published blogs being available on the fedi via @sutty and distributed.press.

We still need an "app" for folks to easily load followed AP data into their device instead of large instance databases.

@mauve the modern conception of "self hosting" generally involves paying AWS for all the hard lifting, obscures the actual infrastructure, and hides the cost of maintenance. true self-hosting in a way that empowers us, rather than subjugating us to a megacorp, entails a degree of understanding of the technical AND the social aspects of infrastructure and maintenance.

@atax1a Honestly I hope we can get to a point where you don't need to think as much about infra to self host. Kinda the reason I've been looking at using publishing where you wouldn't need to set up dns or mess with ip addresses and be able to run everything you need right from the devices you use.

@mauve right, that would be the ideal! but i don't think Kubernetes and Docker are really helping out here, or even IP and DNS itself. The incidental complexity is too much, and the hierarchy of the DNS gives us a fair bit of pause.

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@atax1a Yeah for sure, even just needing an always online http server in there is too much. Self hosting is a reaction to central hosting but we need to rearchitect stuff from the ground up to really be free. Gatways and bridges to http based fedi is a path to connect to existinf folks which is what I'm focusing on with the strategy in

@mauve you're extremely speaking our language — delay-tolerant easily-understandable community-first networking is a dream we've had for our entire life

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