@Miaourt Yeah I agree fully. A lot of it is probably also "that's how it's done" or "they did it so we should too". 😥
@mauve something like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualification-based_wage_for_life would help a lot too
People would be free from stupid stuff solely for the sake of eating
@Miaourt Yessss. I kinda like the book [Utopia for realists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia_for_Realists) and UBI adjacent stuff.
The Canadian government (where I'm from) recently struck down an attempt to enstate it federally. It's unfortunate because conservatives and centrists folks hold a lot of power here and seem to passionately dislike stuff like that :P
@mauve ohhh, I'm too dumb lately to read books for long, but maybe there's a good video paraphrasing it somewhere you're aware of ?
Wow what kind of federal law it ? The one describe in the book ? Like the 15h weeks and UBI ?
Tbh, the one I linked is an anti-UBI one, also heard Friot calling UBI "capitalism's third wheel" ahah.
It's mostly a philosophical opposition, UBI impling that we are only "needing" and not "producing" value, value is kept at what the capitalist are willing to pay for, value is only seen in work that please the capital, ...
Where "wage for life" is recognizing that, even when the capital doesn't pay you a wage, you're working, you're keeping your place clean, you're taking care of your closes ones, you're benevolent in a lot of place, etc etc
Also, buncho systems to make banks, investor, employers, totally useless... While many UBI systems kind of forgot this area
Welp, bit sorry for infodumping suddenly unwanted opinion lol, I think we kind of agree on a fundamental level
@Miaourt this was unconditional livable basic income. https://www.parl.ca/legisinfo/en/bill/44-1/c-223
The book mostly goes over how pilot programs showed savings in gov spending and boosts to local economies and people's quality of life.
@Miaourt that's a cool concept. Do you know of any long form written text that gets really into the weeds on it? I personally enhoy working, but wouldn't mind less pressure to work for specific oegs just to live. I also think UBI could be good for folks that are disabled or near disabled or just low capacity.
@mauve happen often in news websites here in France...
Tbh, I think this mostly lie down in the metric tons of bullshit jobs orgs have, and the metrics tons of marketing tools that exist to give pretty graphs and stats for marketing depts... only for them to creates pretty stats slideshows for C-suits & execs to make them feel something in their boring lifes...