I used to joke about investing 0 dollars in crypto and making zero from (that's better than most! Har har)

But I realized that although that is technically true, I have spent 100$ dollars on a telios email (exclusive life time offer) which is crypto based. And which technically an investment, since I hoped that they wouldn't go bankrupt and stop development.

But then again my expected return on investment is a p2p email., Which I do have, just waiting on the Mobile app.

So you tell me, do I still have permission to make that joke?

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@unmellow were you expecting a crazy high return on investment? I find a lot of stuff that's callled "Crypto incentivized incentives" could have just been fiat payments to buy a thing or a subscription.

@unmellow Tho also I have similar felings about this "ar viewer" I bought which seemed cool but then none of their apps worked for me. And I think that was more like 600 dollars which I feel kinda foolish about, Being an early adopter can suck sometimes

@mauve true, it's very risky venture. In my case I knew that it worked as a normal email regardless, so for my money to truly be a waste they would need to break the app somehow.

Fingers crossed

@mauve as an early adopter I payed one flat price and don't have to renew it monthly or yearly, So technically yes, as I plan to use the email as my daily driver once it works on mobile.

As for if being fiat, the premise is that they don't have servers, your data is encrypted and stored on network nodes and they aren't certain which ones.

They promise security in that even if they legally have to provide information on you, they don't have any in the first place.

They also promise that emails to other telios accounts are p2p. (Although I haven't audited the code so IDK if it's true)

@unmellow Seems a lot less risky and straightforward than my AR experience 🤣

I think if Keet had been publishing their source code Telios would have been a thing months ago. But as it stands compiling all the new hyper stuff on mobile is an extremely difficult challenge.

@unmellow For what it's worth they've been working really hard to figure it out a d have been asking everyone they could for help.

The initial mobile stuff barely got going thanks to the work in Manyverse and Mapeo, but this mew round just hasn't had any existing examples to go off kf

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