@queenslight Interesting. I haven't messed with kbin yet but I was able to view posts and comment on lemmy content from https://programming.dev/c/godot

@mauve Ah, nice!

@queenslight@fedia.io, is where ya can find me among Lemmy, even though I absolutely do not know what I’m doing thanks to it’s odd interface!

I’ve also been enjoying #Calckey these days too
@queenslight@birdkey.ml, whwhere once it fully grows up, I’ll be on there more often.
Well, I’ll bounce between Mastodon and here.

@mauve As many have mentioned, I wish more would use Matrix, but at least from an accessibility standpoint (since most of the blind are IOS users) vs anything else on Mobile, that version of the app is not as intuitive, unfortunately.

I don’t mind either the Android or web/Mac/Windows ones however.

I’m so glad I went back to a Galaxy.

@queenslight Snap, good to know!I don't have an iPhone and haven't tried it's accessibility features. The ones on my samsung android were okay but I feel like it still left a lot to be desired with navigating scrollable content. I tried to read some articles with it but it required way too much manual intervention.

What's the most accessible chat platform in your experience? Is RocketChat any good?

@mauve Never tried that one to be perfectly honest.

It’s a toss up between Discord, WhatsApp, Telegram (best with Android and Windows via Unigram), and the two apps that the USA seem to never use ‘kakaotalk’ and ‘Line.’

The developers for the TelegramApp, basically ignore the Blind community since more Android users use said platform.

And as for Element on IOS,it’s, slightly better these days with an Accessible interface…

@queenslight Dang! Good to know. Hopefully matrix clients can catch up.

What's the main pain point you've had with element? I've been contemplating making a web based matrix client to simplify some of the UI to make it easier for me to navigate with a keyboard or alternative input device.

@mauve For me at least, it’s not the issue of interface, it’s more do to just, not many people want to use it and prefer Discord sadly.

The web interface, I myself don’t have any problems with it, regardless of the platform.

@queenslight Yeah that makes sense. I mostly use Matrix so I can have all my chat apps bridged to it and don't need to switch as much to get information.

I have private spaces for myself where I group stuff from slack/matrix/discord/telegram/signal so I can open them when I want to catch up on that particular area.

@mauve And that’s the beauty of it!

No idea who could do a class from an accessible point of view from it… It ain’t me!

Maybe in podcast form, but in no way a streaming class.

@queenslight Oh yeah! I wonder if classes on programming exist for blind folks already. Most of my presentations are audio heavy and I try to post markdown docs alongside the slides, but defs the code part would take finesse to describe.

I feel like a bunch of text for tutorials and an audio call where folks can ask questions might work?

@mauve One of the leaders in training for Blind/visually impaired peoples, is #FreedomScientific:

https://www.freedomscientific.com/training/

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Although, there’s also the #DolphinComputerAccess approach:

https://yourdolphin.com/tutorials/

Dophin is from the UK, Freedom is from the US.

@mauve Using Microsoft Edge browser, does have that Voice reading feature, which may help with the times ya wish to read articles easier. It’s apart of Emersive Reader. I use it daily!

I jump between Firefox and Edge most of the time.

@queenslight Ah yeah, I got a text to speech extension for Firefox. Sadly it requires internet to run and uses Google services.

I've been thinking of making one using one of the webassembly based TTS engines and have something to navigate the accessibility tree with it.

In general I think it'd be cool if the user agent exposed that stuff to people as a first class feature.