Instead of servers it'd be nice if software was and

Not only should we not ve reliant kn centralized corporate hosting, we should be able to just use whatever devices we have on hand without extra server maintenance.

@mauve I think the proliferation of NAT makes that harder and harder.

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@skryking Yeah NAT can be a pain. Have you been keeping up with some of the latest p2p networking stacka that are tackling it? Hyperswarm for example has great hole punching capabilities using DHT peers and IIRC they have a built in relaying thing for peers that can't ve hole punched. Works oretty quickly and reliably too. Only dowbside is it has a strong dependency on node.js so it's hard to embed in non-js apps.

@mauve yeah unfortunately that still depends on your traffic having to be routed through someone else super-node. Makes the network become much more of a branch and leaf system with pints of failure that can effect larger chunks of the network. I really do need to get into the code and play more.

@skryking Yeah big mood. At least these fays relay discovery is automatic and nodes automatically advertise as relays if they have a stable IP so it's a bit less centralized. IPv6 would be v convenient but it's still unavailable to so many regions 💀

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