Fug, I think I am a cranky old fart type already because I like to write code closer to the metal instead of using all the fancy new tooling.

Maybe I should swallow my pride and install vscode and try copilot or whatever it is kids these days are using.

Also I'm still using nano for all my text editing so I might be imposing a deeper limitation on myself than most minimalists. :P

@mauve The lower level you are, the less you have to worry about other peoples' code!

I just wish C was better.

@j3rn Jeeze that's so true. The main reason I avoid too many layers is people keep breaking them ans forcing me to update/refactor 🤣

I wanna go the other direcrion and code in prolog or something zany just to see what life is like in that world.

@mauve Yes, exactly! The whole "people keep changing things and now my stuff is broken" idea is actually something I hadn't been able to fully articulate until I saw @neauoire's talk at Strange Loop this year, but I now see it everywhere!

I've done a little Prolog—and it's fun!—but my programs are always super slow and there's always these little idiosyncrasies in the language that annoy me. I've been thinking about trying miniKanren or datalog for my next logic programming project.

@j3rn @mauve Have you had a look at Fleng? It's parlog only moreso :)
http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/fleng/fleng.html

@neauoire @j3rn Oh my god. I love how this is a text file on an unsecured connrction with ascii text in the header. This is bound to be gold

@neauoire @j3rn very cool. What are folks using this for in the wild? :O Would love to see a large peogram written in it to see how folks decompile problems into it 🥰

@mauve @j3rn there's a game of life in the example folder, have a look. Fleng is super parallel, the evaluation scheme is mind boggling. Joe Armstrong said Strand was "too-parallel"

@neauoire @j3rn Are there any conpanies using it ti ship stuff? :O Also how is it's file/network IO?