@olm_e The thing that I liked about the hololens is that it just works out of the box. Norhtstar doesn't have software or hardware figured out.

SimulaVR doesn't have hardware yet and is Linux only.

XRDesktop also has almost no hardware support that I'm aware of (in particular for mobile use cases).

Lynx-R1 has hardware, but it doesn't have much software and only supports Android apps. :P

I just want a cli and browser and honestly the Hololens was the closest to that. Just too small a screen.

@olm_e From all those things I think Simula is going to be the best option once they actually release, but I was really hoping that there would be something out there already. 😅

@mauve @olm_e North Star does have hardware and software actually! XRDesktop is only a 3D desktop, of course it doesn't have hardware :p

Lynx is very cool, and I will look into putting Linux + Stardust on there but that'll be a while. XR headsets just aren't really ready there, and HoloLens was the farthest along until Android became the dominant mobile XR platform and it all kinda backslid. I hope Stardust can help reverse that trend though!

@technobaboo What software does NorthStar have which I can just pick up and use tomorrow? Stardust seems to be the most advanced thing I've seen but honestly setting it up is way too daunting even if I could get my hands on hardware for it.

What hardware does xrdesktop work on right now that I can just buy and plug in? I've only seen tech demos and it generally seems like you need to rely on ancient lighthouse based headsets tethered to a desktop computer that requires hours of setup to run.

@mauve Stardust's install process is much easier now, see https://github.com/StardustXR/telescope for scripts that just do it all for you!

xrdesktop works on the index. That's basically it. And libsurvive+monado requires a bit of compilation. Luckily, the Index does at least have SLAM support and hand tracking in Monado now so you can just plug only the headset in, but then you can't use it with xrdesktop, only stardust since xrdesktop doesn't support hands.

Linux XR is SO CLOSE but just not quite there yet, sorry :(

@mauve We're also working on Andromeda, a plug and play Arch-based ISO containing all the tools and drivers you need to just run headsets right out of the box. https://github.com/StardustXR/andromeda/

@technobaboo That's perfect! Yeah, that's exactly the sort of thing I wish was out in the wild.

XR Linux only using old headsets seems like a big barrier to entry atm. :/

I really wish I could just buy something like a simula and get going without having to run a bunch of scripts and stress about compatibility.

@mauve You can! It's just gonna be a bit before they release it.

@technobaboo Yeah..... I really hope they don't get any extra slowdowns. I'm just waiting to get one of these things.

It sucks that Facebook's thing is the main thing that people can just buy and use. At least it's still not great for productivity. :P

@mauve yeah but hololens is not "mobile" ... you need a computer to make it work 🤔

XRDesktop has all OpenXR headset compatible, meaning the one supported by SteamVR on Linux (vives and index) plus the ones supported by Monado (incl. WMR and Sony PSVR)
and it's pretty plug and play and usable in my pov

for mobile you get android or wifi tether to a computer

and btw often Windows things are often "windows only" too ;)

@olm_e I'm not sure if we're talking about the same Hololens. The one I used had the compute pack built into it :o Not like the other WMR headsets out there.

I appreciate that xrdestkop tries to support headsets, but in reality it's just the vive and index that are usable and even those aren't perfect.

Have you tried using any of the MWR headsets with it? I was under the impression stuff like SLAM was barely figured out there.

Windows sucks but at least I can get a CLI and a browser there. :P