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@vv can't belive "us" isn't an option. Disregarding the zoomer demographic

Social network UI musings 

@greytheearthling Yeah IMO this is why ActivityPub should have a standard for querying data in your inbox simar to Triple Pattern Fragments or even SPARQL. Then this stuff can be done on the client instead of the server.

One thing I like about chronological timelines is I have no clue who I follow is "an influencer" or a random shitposter. A person with 100 followers is just as visible as 100 thousand.

on algo based media it's just mostly cool kida that get shoved in people's faces and I guess into each others faces.

Talking to a friend today who works at a BigCo that uses TypeScript. Personally, I think TS is a tax on developers’ time and attention. They mentioned they were initially unproductive with TS, but it's smooth sailing now. I responded, “Yes, but you work at a big company, you can have dedicated TS teams.”

Their response:

Local politician's ad just said: "And I'll lower taxes to help out the working class."

Umm.... taxes HELP the working class. Better roads, better transit, better social nets and programs.... all of that helps the working class.

Lowering taxes only helps the corporate, rich, and ruling class.

Now libraries are getting hit in Canada:

"She said the 'book banning people' have attended almost all board meetings since trustees voted down the review."

"...the recent scale and tone of these recent challenges mimics what is happening in the United States – albeit to a lesser extent – where religious and political activism has led to widespread book bans. "

theglobeandmail.com/canada/art

@smallcircles Interesting. The vibe I'm getting after reading the landing page is that this is a way you can coordinate volunteers to pool time together to work on stuff that they're all interested in. Is that an accurate read?

@smallcircles Neat is it more of a "lifestyle" community sort of thing?

personally I'm going to be experimenting with cooperstive governance models for distributed publishing this year so I'll add this to my todo list for figuring out the tradeoffs. :)

Gonna be taking a couple weeks off work though so I'll get back into it in october

@mauve @evan @bengo Ideally i think corporations would not be at the table at all. that doesnt seem realistic though. if we try to exclude them altogether they'll just lie their way in. At least with W3C you need a confirmed corporate email address to join, so others can check your profile to see who you are affiliated with.

@evan @mauve @bengo more widespread is great. but if Threads attracts enough users to become the dominant player in the Fediverse, they could start closing it off or changing it in favor of themselves and to the detriment of others. So i'd like to see a diverse array of small to medium sized orgs and companies or communities embracing AP instead. the involvement of large corporations makes me uneasy.

@helge @mariusor Interesting, are folks relying on videos ti use libraries instead of docs these days? For some reason I thought folks only needed videos for "learn to code" type scenarios. I typically read example code and unit tests to get a feel for how stuff works.

@mariusor @helge actually could you send me a link to your code? I have a golang based database I want to connct to the fediverse anyway and it'd be nice to reuse something :P

@smallcircles Neat! Is this cryptonomocs or consumer coop type stuff?

@helge right now I'm focused on making it easier for web publishers to use this stuff and with all our work being in the open for devs to peek at and reuse 🥰

My wip blog post about it: github.com/RangerMauve/blog.ma

Tbh these two guides and peeking at my mastodon data got me all I needed. :P

paul.kinlan.me/adding-activity

blog.joinmastodon.org/2018/06/

It was honestly trivial compared to some of the stuff out there 😅

@mariusor @helge Are you using your library for yourself and your own interests? That's the best way to do open source IMO. Whether a thing is "popular" or not is secondary. As long as it's useful to *someone* it's a win IMO. Unless you want to makey money off of it I guess, but that's a whole other ball game 😅

One thing the fediverse has that email doesn't is communities that care about their instance. I genuinely think this is it's biggest strength to combat centralization.

@steve @evan @djsf @bengo Like when they inevitably try to add ads to AP or whatever shit we can give them the finger and fork from any impl that's shitty enough to go with it. Prople thay want big social media corps can go ahead and use em, and existing AP communiyies can do fine without it.

I think it's mostly the monolith instances like .social that will cave to incorporate whatever facebook wants of them

@steve @evan @djsf @bengo Yeah but will existing fediverse users even give a shit about it or its standards? These are spaxes people made for theor communities and to talk to other small communities. If we wanted millions of users one the one big instance we'd already be on facebook or whatever.

@evan @djsf @bengo yeah! I'd love to see them put out implementations based on the current specs and gain community trust before going behind closed doors to make decisions on something that is used by thousands of people that could be harmed by corporate control 🤷

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